![]() 07/27/2017 at 02:05 • Filed to: Genesis | ![]() | ![]() |
!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! just got spy shots of the Genesis G70 interior for, from the looks of it, the 3.3t above and the 2.0t below. I knew that Genesis was going to go more towards a Bentley type of style as each new car came down the line. It’s a good move in my opinion as long as they get creative or else it will just come across as Audi-esque instead.
Remember that the G70 Sedan is a bit smaller, lower, and lighter than the Stinger. It is also focused on being a complete sports sedan rather than a grand tourer and should contain all the tweaks and fixes to the Stinger’s complaints.
The G70 has been seen testing exclusively against the current 3-Series which is funny because I can promise you the Infiniti Q50 is the car they are really targeting. For reference, the Stinger used the current generation Mercedes C-Class Wagon as their benchmark for at least the Alps testing.
The G70 should be revealed within the next month or two. Expect it to be priced right on top of the Infiniti Q50 but use an engine advantage. For example, the 208 hp Q50 2.0t starts at $34,000. You can reasonably expect the 255 hp G70 2.0t to start at $33,500. The 300 hp Q50 3.0t can be had at $39,000 but the sportier variant of that same engine is just over $44,500. Genesis will likely position the 365 hp G70 3.3t at $40,000 and a sport pack for $43,500 with the same engine output.
The 2.0t should do 0-60 mph around 5.8 seconds (my guess) while the 3.3t will hit 0-60 mpg in 4.5 seconds that way it can claim to be the fastest accelerating car ever produced by Hyundai Group (sad). That’s plenty quick but remember that 2.0t Giulias and A4s are getting disturbingly close to 5 second 0-60 mph runs despite having ratings under 300 hp. We have some seriously hot 4-cyl cars coming and the next gen 3-Series will probably be a 5.1 second car with a rated 250 hp 4-cyl.
Anyways, this is the car I’m most excited for because I love the way current BMWs drive. They softened up just enough to be the style of cars I actually buy. I’m also a pretty big Infiniti/Nissan fan but the Q50 didn’t connect with me though I like it in general. I’m also a value focused person, so the potential of having a current 3-Series like car with a Q50 beating price structure, easy ownership, better value, and ability to run 87 octane (because Premium fuel might turn into a $1.00 difference) is really checking all the boxes for me.
Oh, and the Bentley thing, I’m serious when I say that’s where Genesis is heading. Discount Bentley the same way Jaguar does a great discount Aston Martin impression or current Alfa Romeos do discount Ferrari and, I’ll argue this another time, Lexus is doing discount Maserati right now. I’ll end this post with the Genesis “inspired by Bentley” clues. You can tell Luc Donckerwolke & Co. are bringing their backgrounds to Genesis.
![]() 07/27/2017 at 06:21 |
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Yay, more double sticky taped tablets!
![]() 07/27/2017 at 07:40 |
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I like it, but hopefully it comes in at least $3k lower than the prices you’ve guessed. If it’s as nice as it looks in the shots and sounds on paper, it’s probably worth $34k to start. The problem is they’re benchmarking old cars. By the time this is available, the new 3 series will be out and the Q50 will be over 4 years old. I know it has more power and a nicer interior than the base BMW, Audi, and Infiniti, but realistically this needs to start right around $30k to have a chance as an uneatablished brand.
![]() 07/27/2017 at 08:14 |
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Agreed - I think if they try and price that close to a comparable Infiniti, people will choose the known entity. They’ll need to offer a bigger financial incentive to take a chance on it over the competition. Once they build a consumer portfolio, then they can start trending prices upward. If not, I’d imagine seeing big discounts on unsold inventory. Better/easier to plan to charge less to begin with.
![]() 07/27/2017 at 09:43 |
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They get good grades for effort, but the “discount Bentley” is a dangerous game. Discount anything is a dangerous strategy , as people will immediately look to where the corners were cut, rather than any positives of the car. Case in point, Equus (as sold in NA), initially talked up as a cut-rate S-class, but not really close, and it ended up with slow sales (I doubt many sold new to anyone who wasn’t a dealer principal or proud expat) and catastrophic depreciation. The goofy KDM styling didn’t help, either. Fortunately for them, Hyunkia has seen the errors of those ways in design. But in this, design has to be careful to not be too derivative - I think that line might be crossed with the pseudo-Bentley winged Genesis logo, the Mulsanne-esque greenhouse of the G90, and the SUV concept above. Some may say “inspired”, others will say “copycat”.
If anything on the market is a discount Bentley, it might be a properly equipped S-class, which has a lot of posh and some cachet for much less money - and it still has its own design. Not news though, as I doubt they are cross-shopped much in the real world.
I can definitely see a Jag-AM relationship, but I think Maserati is the discount Ferrari, and Alfa is the discount Maserati - all three of these relationships are intentional, created by product planners. Other than the Lexus LC, which is about 75% the price of a Maserati GT, I don’t see the parallel, even with the blander Maseratis.
![]() 07/27/2017 at 09:46 |
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I like me some knobs.
The car may or may not have an ipad or a dual / triple screen.
But, I’d like a knob / (real) button for controlling the functions.
![]() 07/27/2017 at 10:59 |
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Yeah Hyundai has to bring it the next 3 will be a complete redesign and the next C (also due next year) will be a facelift model.